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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185091355" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185091355">(Jan 08 2020 at 09:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I agree that Zulip has some pretty bad UI design. but discord's deficiencies are worse IMO -- the UI is superficially better, but some deeper things are broken. like, when scrolling the backlog I have to idea how to figure out the day of the message I am looking at. or, email notifications are just not working -- I disabled them once by accident, it is impossible to enable them again. or, private messages are in a totally different place than channels. or, managing which channels of a "server" you care for is a mess. or, there's no good way to browse where I was @mentioned when I come back after a few weeks, the "mentions" list only goes back 2 weeks or so. I could go on.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185091378" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> RalfJ <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185091378">(Jan 08 2020 at 09:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>anyway, sorry for the rant.^^<br>
IMO it doesnt really matter which chat the libs team is on, as long as there is one^^ I thought their IRC isnt used any more?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185101040" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185101040">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> Could we create a new topic for the Zulip UX discussion? <span aria-label="slight smile" class="emoji emoji-1f642" role="img" title="slight smile">:slight_smile:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185101485" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185101485">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think we can do so in #zulip there's no need for a stream</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185101977" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185101977">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:49)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> I'm not sure I understand? I mean pulling the discussion about Zulip out of the discussion about the libs team and into its own topic. Not creating a new stream.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185102015" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185102015">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh yeah for sure. I think you can do it? I'm on my phone right now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185102300" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185102300">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hm, actually, I think moving cross stream isn't possible</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185102349" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185102349">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>But a new topic should be</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185102377" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185102377">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:54)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> Unfortunately not, otherwise I would have just done it. <span aria-label="stuck out tongue" class="emoji emoji-1f61d" role="img" title="stuck out tongue">:stuck_out_tongue:</span> <a href="/user_uploads/4715/amM_Bh-4RjMtttlaBVYTflDE/cant-edit.png" target="_blank" title="cant-edit.png">cant-edit.png</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185102406" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185102406">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>Huh I thought we had that permission enabled</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185102418" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185102418">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:55)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll get around to it in a bit when I get to my computer</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185102610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185102610">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:58)</a>:</h4>
<p>(forked this from <a class="stream-topic" data-stream-id="122651" href="/#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/libs.20team.20meetings.20and.20btree">#general &gt; libs team meetings and btree</a>)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185102669" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185102669">(Jan 08 2020 at 11:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can't remember exactly how we've got that set up - I'm fairly sure you're only able to fork a conversation at one of your own messages, I'm not sure if the 1 hour edit window applies to that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185103179" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185103179">(Jan 08 2020 at 12:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes, I definitely can edit my own message's topic. The time limit does not apply.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185104007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185104007">(Jan 08 2020 at 12:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wonder though -- if users can only edit the topic of their <em>own</em> message, can they not then select the "all later messages" or whatever?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185104012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185104012">(Jan 08 2020 at 12:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>at that point it seems... almost useless :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185106804" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> XAMPPRocky <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185106804">(Jan 08 2020 at 12:56)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116122">@simulacrum</span> I can select that option. I just can't edit another persons topic at all. <a href="/user_uploads/4715/lWkhUBbdF8eZXEaQr_nnfU48/edit-options.png" target="_blank" title="edit-options.png">edit-options.png</a></p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185110357" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> davidtwco <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185110357">(Jan 08 2020 at 13:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>There's a setting to enable changing the topics of anyone's messages.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185112777" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> simulacrum <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185112777">(Jan 08 2020 at 13:57)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yes I specifically meant that editing the topic of your own message if you can't edit others doesn't seem useful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip%20ux/near/185125678" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Paul Faria <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/122651-general/topic/zulip.20ux.html#185125678">(Jan 08 2020 at 15:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Well it can also go wrong. I meant to move only my messages to a different topic and ended up moving everyone's messages. It created a lot of confusion because it was a really long thread</p>



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